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Hi readers, I need your help in finding the correct attribution for the Frida Kahlo quote I turned into a comic earlier this year. Shortly after the comic was posted I received an email from reader claiming that the quote was not written by Kahlo, but that she herself had written it and that it had mistakingly become attributed to Kahlo in the chaos of the internet.
The quote in question is:
“I used to think I was the strangest person in the world but then I thought there are so many people in the world, there must be someone just like me who feels bizarre and flawed in the same ways I do. I would imagine her, and imagine that she must be out there thinking of me too. Well, I hope that if you are out there and read this and know that, yes, it’s true I’m here, and I’m just as strange as you.”
The reader told me that she wrote the quote as a tribute to Kahlo for a submission on the blog PostSecret. The whole point of the blog is for readers to post secret writings anonymously, which is how the problem began (It’s also a fantastic blog worth reading if you haven’t). Being a huge fan of Kahlo, she wrote the quote on a picture of Kahlo and submitted it to the blog in 2008. The only evidence is this repost on a Frida Kahlo fan page. With the internet being the internet, the image got reblogged until eventually people just assumed it was a Frida Kahlo quote.
Various sources (including WikiQuote, which is generally pretty reliable) claim the quote is from Kahlo’s famous diary, but after reading the English translation, I could not find it anywhere. I also got in touch with the Frida Kahlo estate and they couldn’t point to the exact source either. I know Frida wrote in Spanish and translation into English can cause some problems, which only adds to my own uncertainty.
I’m not really sure what to do so I thought I would ask you for help. I know that many of you are way smarter than me, and that there are also many Spanish speaking readers, so if you have any further information, or have any evidence of the quote appearing BEFORE 2008 please leave a comment below. With your help, maybe we can figure this out. So many of you have asked for the poster version to be made available, but I want to get this sorted out first.
I’m a lot more careful when choosing quotes than I used to be, making sure to find the original sources first, but this one slipped through the cracks. My apologies.
– Gav
The PostSecret blog is definitely not defunct – it updates every Sunday at postsecret.com. They should be able to help verify the original post there at least.
You’re right thanks
I’ve found the image on what reports itself as an archive of old PostSecret postcards:
http://oldpostsecret.tumblr.com/post/3444825920/i-used-to-think-i-must-be-the-strangest-person-in
More evidence, thanks!
Google indexing the quote using the “before 2002” filter… Your reader is mistaken.
https://www.google.com.hk/search?q=“I+used+to+think+I+was+the+strangest+person+in+the+world”&client=ms-android-google&hl=en&prmd=ivn&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A%2Ccd_max%3A4%2F12%2F2002&tbm=
I’m a little suspicious that source considering a huge number of those documents are dated Jan 31 or Feb 1 of 2001 and from Pinterest which was founded in 2010. I don’t think Google search dating is reliable.
I looked for the original in Spanish and I found out that its taken from her personal journal. Its widely cited in Spanish language academic articles and books. So if Frida Kahlo didn’t actually write that, im afraid we have to tell a whole community of scholars.
Yo solía pensar que era la persona más extraña en el mundo, pero luego pensé, hay mucha gente así en el mundo, tiene que haber alguien como yo, que se sienta bizarra y dañada de la misma forma en que yo me siento. Me la imagino, e imagino que ella también debe estar por ahí pensando en mí. Bueno, yo espero que si tú estás por ahí y lees esto sepas que, sí, es verdad, yo estoy aquí, soy tan extraña como tú.
I find one book that Google Books indexes, http://www.amazon.com/Frida-Biography-Kahlo-Hayden-Herrera/dp/0747566135/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1450059867&sr=1-1&keywords=9780747566137, that indicates the quote is in it (although I don’t have it and can’t see it) and it was published in 2003. Otherwise everything I find comes after that.
Amazon has a “search inside this book” feature, and that quote does not appear in that book in either English or Spanish. The Spanish version of the quote only appears in two books on Google Books, published in 2013 and 2015, respectively. I can’t see any evidence of the quote in English or Spanish anywhere before 2008 through Google web search or Google books.
I found this book (https://books.google.com.mx/books?id=mRkMAQAAQBAJ&dq=Yo+sol%C3%ADa+pensar+que+era+la+persona+más+extraña+en+el+mundo,+pero+luego+pensé,+hay+mucha+gente+as%C3%AD+en+el+mundo,+tiene+que+haber+alguien+como+yo,+que+se+sienta+bizarra+y+dañada+de+la+misma+forma+en+que+yo+me+siento.+Me+la+imagino,+e+imagino+que+ella+también+debe+estar+por+ah%C3%AD+pensando+en+m%C3%AD.+Bueno,+yo+espero+que+si+tú+estás+por+ah%C3%AD+y+lees+esto+sepas+que,+s%C3%AD,+es+verdad,+yo+estoy+aqu%C3%AD,+soy+tan+extraña+como+tú.&source=gbs_navlinks_s) published in 2013 by Penguin Random House in Spain where the author quotes it as Frida’s.
Hi Gav,
Like Ramon says above, I’ve searched for the quote in Spanish and there’s a lot of sites that claim this is Frida Khalos quote. It’s even under the “top 10 quotes of Frida” that some sources have put out.
Here are 2 of the sources which claim this is Fridas:
http://culturainquieta.com/es/inspiring/item/7055-27-citas-de-frida-kahlo-que-nos-encanta-leer.html
http://www.abc.es/20120706/cultura-arte/abci-aniversario-nacimiento-frida-kahlo-201207051459.html
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The Internet Archive Way Back Machine has a snapshot from March 18, 2008 of the postsecret.blogspot.com website homepage. The date at the top of the webpage is March 16, 2008, and the target quotation is shown with a picture of Frida Kahlo. This is strong evidence for part of the claim, i.e., it was posted to PostSecret in March 2008. In an incomplete preliminary search I have not seen a match before March 2008.
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I downloaded a copy of the diary in spanish and did not found the phrase there.
Thanks Jorge, yeah I read the English translation and couldn’t find it either
Sounds very similar to this:
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/spark/spark-264-1.2848449/how-frida-kahlo-trumps-truth-1.2848446
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